Fox & Friends' Steve Doocy was caught off guard when former Saturday Night Live star Victoria Jackson appeared on his show. This gal almost makes Sarah Palin sound like Gloria Steinem.
Apparently Doocy wasn't aware that Jackson had said President Obama "bears traits that resemble the anti-Christ" and shares "so many similar qualities" with Adolf Hitler.
The Republicans seem to have a serious problem with vetting. I wouldn't buy a horse without having it vet-checked, including its rear end.
From MEDIAMATTERS:
DOOCY: So, are you ready to join the tea party people?
JACKSON: I am the tea party people. We're beginners at this political activism and it's all new to us and it's kind of cute 'cause we're shy, we hold up our signs like this, you know, despite what they say about us, I have never done anything like this, but we have to because the president is a Communist.
Panic! What to do, what to do? It's not like she's called Obama a Communist before on national television. How could we have seen this coming? Oh, wait, right.
Doocy did what he could to recover, though, saying that Obama "is not a Communist," and quickly tried to change the subject to how the Left has tried to "diminish" the Tea Party as something illegitimate. But Jackson just refused to play ball, explaining that she had learned about Obama's communism from Doocy's Fox News colleague Glenn Beck:
DOOCY: Now, he is not a Communist. But you just pointed out that you hold up signs and stuff like that and people make fun of you. What do you think about how some on the other political side have tried to diminish or, you know, or marginalize the Tea Party people?
JACKSON: Well, I guess they're afraid of the power of our passion and our numbers and, you know, you might not say Communist, but I watch Glenn Beck and he's taught me well. Progressive is the new word for Communist, but it's the same goal as government control of everything and it's very obvious that Obama is trying to do that. And I don't want to brag, but I sort of called it before he was elected and when I was on O'Reilly and I said he was a Communist and I got a lot of hate mail, but I got some that said I was a prescient which means "a prophet."
Doocy tried again to change the subject, but Jackson got in a final jab: "Our government is all evil right now and someone's got to do something." Doocy ended the interview with an awkward wave to Jackson. But only Doocy's facial expression can sum up this interview appropriately:
I saw this on TV today, It was hilarious! Poor Fox, losing all credibility can be so disheartening and embarrassing for them, lol. Jackson is loser, a big fat LOSER!!
ReplyDeleteWow! The perfect Tea Party spokesperson -- blonde bimbo with a little girl squeaky voice. If it wasn't on Fox News, I would think it was a comedy piece. Well, she is a piece of work.
ReplyDeleteSince she used to be on SNL I thought at first it might be a "comedy routine." But then it hit me that the bimbo was completely serious.
ReplyDeleteI think they ought to make her a spokesperson!
a spokesperson for the buggers, OMG this is genius. She could go on the road with Palin and Bachmann, oh it's toooooo good!!! There is way too much comedy coming from the rightwingers!
ReplyDeleteShe's crazier than a shithouse rat. That's about the nicest thing i can say about her. She's been prattling on for years, and she sucked in SNL, too.
ReplyDeleteWow, the stupidis strong with her isn't it? Notice though nothing was said about how crazy the king of the Beckerheads is, he kept ignoring the fact she gets all her information from him. The power of their passion, WTH. They are a bunch of tired retreads being bussed around by the people that pull their strings. So very sad.
ReplyDeleteI have written a few posts on Jesusistan Jackson. I am absolutely amazed at how FOX "News" thinks that having her on is going to do anything for their credibility; my German Shepherd is far easier to understand, and she never speaks.
ReplyDeleteBut what else would you expect from the network that decided to bring aboard Charlie Daniels as a terrorism "expert?"
This might be funny if it weren’t so scary. It really is scary that a national news outlet, even Fox News, would give such name-calling propagandists a microphone – not to mention a paycheck.
ReplyDelete"The Republicans seem to have a serious problem with vetting."
ReplyDeleteIt happens in the other party, too. Somehow they let a very extreme Maoist get a Green Jobs Czar position. I remember reading that the people involved admitted the mistake, and will watch more carefully for such pro-genocide kooks in the future.
Sue: We could call them The Three Monkeys.
ReplyDeleteBee: "She's crazier than a shithouse rat." LOL. LOL. LOL. I love that one.
Jess: In the end moderation prevails and extremism fails. They might as well take those guns the Palin is always flashing around and put them in their mouths. NOTE: I'm not saying "pull the trigger." It's just symbolism.
JR: Didn't know that about Daniels. Not surprised, though.
BJ: You have a point but Fox doesn't care about integrity - just following and money.
dmarks: I think a lot of folks believe the Van Jones incident was nothing more than a McCarthy-like witch hunt. What is important in life is what we're doing today, not what we did yesterday.
ReplyDeleteIf we subscribed to your theory, Nixon would never have become president.
I vote for "all of the above".
ReplyDeleteTn said: "I think a lot of folks believe the Van Jones incident was nothing more than a McCarthy-like witch hunt."
ReplyDeleteIf so, they have no idea what they are talking about. I never listened to Glenn Beck on this, but instead drilled to the primary sources, which detailed Jones as a member of STORM, an explicitly Maoist group. These sort of sociopaths, like Nazis, don't deserve to be locked up for expressing rabid kook views. But that still doesn't mean we should appoint them to high office.
"What is important in life is what we're doing today, not what we did yesterday."
Regardless of what David Duke does today, the fact remains of his youthful membership in the Nazi movement. What we did yesterday DOES matter, unless we make a completely clean break from it. If you don't bother to look into someone's background, you have a vetting problem.
Possibly all three, but stupid for sure. C'mon, that's a prerequisite for joining this movement, isn't it.
ReplyDeleteBut she's always been painfully dim and as painfully untalented and unfunny (IOW, on her way to a Tea Party somewhere in the future ;). I remember watching her on SNL years ago and wondering who and why hired her. (Then again, it's SNL, which is rarely funny to begin with.)
my German Shepherd is far easier to understand, and she never speaks
That, however, is funny, JR. :)
I just watched the video. O.M.F.G....
ReplyDeleteThe KKKrazy Mickey Mouse wanna-be's cheerful proclamation,
I am the tea party people!
says it all. Perfect.
I'm stealing the video for my blog, Leslie!
dmarks: no matter how you slice it, it was still a witch hunt. Personally I'm not particulary turned off by STORM. Like most extremist organizations it had a lot of internal conflict and disbanded in 2002. Van Jones joined right after law school (1993) and had to have been gone by 1996 when he formed his own successful non-profit, the first of three.
ReplyDeleteVan Jones has fought against police brutality and for the environment. What's wrong with that? We were cheated of a very brilliant mind, imo.
The main differences between Van Jones and Duke? One actively tries to improve the lives of people while the other tries to destroy them. One is successful, one isn't. And that's as far as I want to go on this subject.
"The KKKrazy Mickey Mouse"
ReplyDeleteInteresting. You've managed to make Jackson into a sympathetic figure. Do you have any evidence of her having any KKK connections at all? Or are you just making this up entirely.... perhaps doing exactly what she does, applying extreme adjectives to political opponents without evidence?
So, where is it? Or is "Victoria Jackson = KKK" as much pure imagination as "Barack Obama = Communist".
Go for it Elizabeth. I put it up on FB. The funniest thing to me is these people are so out of it they don't even realize how hysterical/pathetic they are.
ReplyDeleteShe is all 3.. I have seen some of her rants before and she is always like this... Has been since the president was elected. She is a kook.. but then she fits right in with the rest of the Kooks on Faux Noise.
ReplyDeleteIt happens in the other party, too. Somehow they let a very extreme Maoist get a Green Jobs Czar position.
ReplyDeleteSingle stupidest thing I've seen all day, and I read a lot of right wing tripe.
Interesting. You've managed to make Jackson into a sympathetic figure.
ReplyDeleteFollowed up by the SECOND stupidest thing I've read all day. dmarks, you are definitely on a roll.
Leslie: When I first saw Victoria Jackson I thought it was a comedy skit. Her voice is enough to make my nerves stand straight up! I don't want to be mean because she can't help it if that's her real voice. But I do think she's a bit "out there" and Fox, et al. really should reconsider using her for interviews, etc.
ReplyDeleteShe's definately out there. I envision a cuckoo clock with the little birds springing out and the eyes rolling around. LOL.
ReplyDeleteJolly Roger: The first is quite factual. If anything was stupid, it was the vetting blunder that allowed it to happen. It's not really "right wing". The liberal Obama administration realized this mistake also.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, smearing a mere "ditz" as a KKK member is way out there, and I defend people from such false accusations, just as I defend Obama from those who call him a communist. If you are going to claim something like that, you'd better be able to back it up. Or else you are insulting just for insult's sake, like with your calling me "stupid'.
I read above this comment the requirement for "healthy dialogue does not include abuse, name calling, taunts, and threats. Please be respectful of your fellow bloggers."
Calm down a bit.
Pamela: I only know Jackson from a movie she did with Leah Thompson. Both are definitely "filler" comic figures. E list comediennes.
ReplyDeleteDo you know of anyone with "Caroline in the City" DVD sets?
Pam: Meant to say thanks for stopping by. She is sort of a natural wonder isn't she?
ReplyDeleteI'm exhausted, so I'm hitting the sack. Will be back in the morning. Thanks everyone. Please don't blow the place up while I'm gone.
Dmarks, implying that Jackson is racist because she identifies herself with the Tea Party movement (why, she IS the Tea Party people!), which is made up of 99% whites smearing a black president in any way imaginable, ranting about "getting their country back!" and shouting racial slurs at black Congresspeople, is no more a stretch than calling Van Jones a Maoist because he belonged to STORM. (At least Van Jones never said he WAS STORM, bless his modest heart. ;)
ReplyDelete"Congresspeople, is no more a stretch than calling Van Jones a Maoist because he belonged to STORM"
ReplyDeleteAt least we are getting somewhere. If you look up STORM, you will see that they considered Mao to be their ideological leader.
As for tea parties, I went to one event. To observe, not to participate. There were no Klansman there, and there was no criticism of the President over his skin color. I really didn't pay attention to the skin color of the participants, since I'm not a racist myself. Actually, the main color I seemed to care about then was green, as I tended to gravitate to and converse with Green Party members who were at the event.
Anyway, about Jackson.... I wonder if she'd be scarce if Fox instituted a drug testing policy for its employees.
This is not an accident or an embarrassment to the likes of Fox. It serves to reinforce to their audience that knowledge, reasonableness, seriousness mean nothing compared to their "common sense," i.e. the result of their greed and rage. This is a vital part of keeping these people fighting for policies that hurt them more than anyone. Without it, the Republican base would dissolve.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth, how odd to use as evidence that people are racists the claim that they are ranting about "getting their country back!"
ReplyDeleteTaking back America is an old campaign slogan of the Left. In fact, this 2008 election web site mentions an event kicked off by Van Jones. So there we have none of than Van Jones among those ranting about taking back our country. I guess that means he's a Klansman too.
But overall it looks like you are making a great leap of claiming that people oppose Obama for his policies really oppose him for his race. When the same sort of people opposed Bill Clinton for his policies. Foof. there goes the racism argument.
If anything's racist here, it is those who are playing the race card. Those who argue that a President is above criticism just because of his skin color.
This is what happens when you have too many Whitecastle fast food munchies. Since their inception the Teaparty crowd (not a movement since they do have the numbers or clout) have been “haters not debaters”. In my opinion this is what the small portions of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” have brought you. They are good at “Follow the Leader” of their dullard leaders, they listen to Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush and Savage and the rest of the Blowhards. Are you surprise at what they do when you know what they think? The world is complicated and most republicans (Hamiliton, Lincoln, Roosevelt) believe that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now its about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. Although some republicans are trying to distant themselves from this fringe most of them are just going along and fanning the flames. Lets face it the Republicans had 8 years to deal with health care, immigration and financial oversight and governance and they failed. They could not even win one of the two wars they started, the body bags are still coming in. The Republicans wanted to give Obama his Waterloo defeat over healthcare but instead they gave themselves their own Waterloo defeat by not participating in the debate of ideas and by becoming the party of obstructionist. But they now claim they have changed, come on, what sucker is going to believe that?
ReplyDeleteBut overall it looks like you are making a great leap of claiming that people oppose Obama for his policies really oppose him for his race. When the same sort of people opposed Bill Clinton for his policies. Foof. there goes the racism argument.
ReplyDeleteGreat leap, huh. Dmarks, the fact that many of these people opposed Clinton is no proof that they are not racist, certainly you realize that, right?
No doubt there are some (many?) Tea Party members who are not racist, but, unfortunately, their presence is overshadowed by the lunatics and racists who froth at the mouth about the Kenyan-born commie-nazi Muslim illegally occupying the White House.
The thing is, Dmarks, that no one will admit to being racist, because, thank goodness, it's become socially unacceptable. But, fortunately for racist lunatics and unfortunately for the rest of us, other idiotic terms (with no reflection in reality) can be used instead of racial slurs today -- you know, socialist, commie, nazi, Muslim, furin-born, etc. -- pick one or use all of them together, no matter.
I think you should pay attention to the racial composition of the Tea Party movement. It's rather impressive, all that milky pastiness, whipped into a frenetic foam of white rage. Really sumthin. But of course teabaggers are not racist -- why, some of their best friends are black! (Naw, not really, but that's the stock phrase you may hear if you confront them with their illogical, prejudicial, and highly paranoid complaints directed at this president. Who just happens to be black. Coincidence? Depends on whom you ask, apparently.)
Since you've mentioned Clinton here, where were those people when Bush was raking up deficits, cutting taxes for the rich, and bankrupting the country by starting two pointless and illegal wars? Somehow all that reckless spending is OK when done by a Republican, who can prattle on about fiscal responsibility while driving the nation to the ground. Curious standards, those.
dmarks: I know you are not racist but I think you are turning a blind eye to the racism, among other things, of the TPs. Please read my latest post which is rather long but worth the read - at least I hope so.
ReplyDeleteeliz said " and racists who froth at the mouth about the Kenyan-born commie-nazi Muslim illegally occupying the White House."
ReplyDeletePretty good example of what I am talking about. The false Muslim accusation isn't about race at all. Nor is the communism one, or occupying the White House. So only one of your claims (the Kenyan one) out of the ones you listed can have anything to do with race.
"The thing is, Dmarks, that no one will admit to being racist"
And you have no basis for arguing that someone is racist with no evidence whatsoever. Regardless of thin attempts to claim that entirely non-racial arguments, or non-racial reasons for opposing Obama are racist.
"other idiotic terms (with no reflection in reality) can be used instead of racial slurs today -- you know, socialist, commie, nazi, Muslim, furin-born, etc. -- pick one or use all of them together, no matter."
And these "idiotic" terms... one of which was frequently used as a slur against George W. Bush, simply aren't racial, other than foreign-born.
"It's rather impressive, all that milky pastiness, whipped into a frenetic foam of white rage."
I guess I should not be surprised that some actual racism is coming from you in this. So bashing someone for being a communist is racist, and bashing people for their skin shade is not???
"Since you've mentioned Clinton here, where were those people when Bush was raking up deficits, cutting taxes for the rich, and bankrupting the country by starting two pointless and illegal wars? "
1) Not the best one to bring up for you, since Obama's deficit spending is far worse than Bush's.
2) The Bush tax cuts were mostly for the middle class, and were for all taxpayers. It is deceptive to say they were "for the rich"
3) The retaliation agains the terrorists was quite legal, and to be applauded and supported. And there was a point: to stop terrorism by going to the source. The Vice President and Secretary of State voted wisely to fight back.
tnlib said: "dmarks: I know you are not racist but I think you are turning a blind eye to the racism, among other things, of the TPs."
ReplyDeleteNothing is further from the truth. I readily condemn actual racism, no matter where it comes from. Even the person who shows bigotry in her comment above with the milky/pasty adjective (Imagine the reaction if a right-wing blogger talked about an African-American crowd being so "dark"!). I have even dug up photos of racist signs that have appeared at tea-party rallies and presented them to a liberal blog friend of mine for condemnation.
I don't turn a blind eye to any racism. But I also have a clear gaze and don't conjure racism out of entirely non-racial views and arguments.
By the way, there is a new story from the WSJ this morning about the Obama Administration supporting a blatantly racist admission policy at a university. It sure is backwards when calling someone a communist is perceived as racist, but policies designed explicitly to punish individuals for having the wrong skin color is not.
ReplyDeletedmarks: I'm going to have to get back to you on this tomorrow. I've had a hell of a problem on my blog and just got it taken care of. Sorry but I'm drained and just want to check on a few things and go to bed.
ReplyDeletedmarks: I'm not sure you and I will reach a mutual understanding here. However, I hasten to add that some of my fellow bloggers are giving me pause.
ReplyDeleteLike this post by Infidel:
http://infidel753.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-left-misunderstands-far-right.html
A very interesting and well-argued article.